In an expansive three-hour sit-down, Oscar-winner Roger Avary and Joe Rogan tear down the facade of the modern film industry, only to find something much more unsettling underneath. From the hidden pedophilic subtexts in 'The Exorcist' to the potential that a thousand years of human history were fabricated, they challenge every pillar of the status quo. The conversation takes a sharp turn into the dark reality of the Epstein files and why an auteur might find more freedom in AI than in a Hollywood studio.