Wicked

The holiday air feels heavy with more than just tinsel when Amy Poehler sits down with Ana Gasteyer. This isn't your typical festive fluff; it’s a deep dive into the "sausage factory" of Saturday Night Live and the bizarre, high-stakes childhood of a woman who played the violin for the architects of Middle East peace. Gasteyer, self-dubbed the Duchess of Christmas, brings a sharp, witty edge to the nostalgia, dissecting why she finds the holidays inherently melancholic and how her perfectionism nearly sabotaged her most iconic performances. The solitary burden of the 150-year-old violin Long before she was donning wigs on Studio 8H, Gasteyer was a "legally blind" child with an eye patch and a 150-year-old violin. She describes a childhood defined by the lonely, grueling practice required for classical music. It wasn't a choice she made, but one inherited through a grandfather’s barter for legal services. This instrument, which she still plays today, became a symbol of a "talented laziness" that allowed her to fake it until the breaking point of professional classical training. She realized early on that while she was a perfectionist, she lacked the passion to lock herself in a room for eight hours a day. The violin, she notes with her trademark dry wit, is the saddest instrument ever made, and it served as her first portal into the performative sadness she now embraces during the holidays like a "cozy blanket." Suzuki method diplomacy at the Camp David Accords One of the most surreal chapters of Gasteyer’s life involves her childhood friendship with Amy Carter. Being the friend of the First Daughter meant more than just sleepovers; it meant playing Suzuki violin for Anwar Sadat and Menachem Begin during the Camp David Accords. Gasteyer recalls the absurdity of playing "Lightly Row" in a room where the fate of the Middle East was being negotiated. She jokes that perhaps her playing didn't quite help the peace process stay on the right road, but the experience left her with a profound perspective on the intersection of the mundane and the monumental. It was in the White House that she also witnessed the true power of parody, watching Jimmy Carter laugh at Dan Aykroyd portraying him on television—a core memory that cemented her belief in the importance of laughing at oneself. Surviving the SNL sausage factory and the art of the bomb Transitioning from the White House to The Groundlings and eventually Saturday Night Live, Gasteyer found a different kind of intensity. She reflects on her audition process, where Will Ferrell warned her that the room would be deathly silent. To prepare, she had her husband sit like "Mount Rushmore" while she ran her monologues, practicing the cadence of comedy without the validation of laughter. This discipline served her well in a workplace she describes as a "complicated creative factory." She and Poehler find a twisted joy in recounting their failures, specifically the "Zoo Crew" sketch that received a response like a "painting"—utterly still and silent. For Gasteyer, there is a community therapy in the "bomb," a shared primal scream among sketch performers who find beauty in the absolute collapse of a premise. The perfectionist's trap in the Wicked-verse Perhaps the most revealing moment of the conversation centers on Gasteyer’s tenure as Elphaba in Wicked. Despite her success, she was mercilessly cruel to herself, convinced that every performance was a failure of technique. She felt the weight of being a "TV person" entering the hallowed halls of Broadway, constantly trying to prove she belonged. It wasn't until fifteen years later, when she finally listened to recordings of her final shows, that she realized her self-perception was a liar. The recordings were almost identical in quality, proving that the difference between 98% and 100% is imperceptible to everyone but the person suffering for it. This realization—that she was an unreliable witness to her own talent—serves as a poignant lesson on the dangers of the perfectionist mind, which she colorfully describes as a "raging dick." Martha Stewart and the comfort of the rules Gasteyer’s transformation into Martha Stewart remains one of her most celebrated feats, but the reality of meeting the icon was "the worst." She describes the harrowing experience of sitting next to Stewart while fully dressed as her, feeling the awkwardness of the sketch comedy world's inherent "uncoolness." Unlike stand-up, which has the veneer of leather-jacket-wearing cool, sketch is about the embarrassment of the wig and the commitment to the bit. Yet, Gasteyer finds a strange comfort in Stewart's rigid world of rules—like never drinking alone—and her rehearsed, barely-moving mouth. This obsession with the specific, whether it's the "thinner gauge" of craft paper for gift wrapping or the exact vocal phrasing of an NPR host, is what defines Gasteyer’s career: a relentless pursuit of the specific detail that makes the parody feel more real than the reality. Ultimately, Gasteyer and Poehler conclude that the most important thing is simply showing up and being kind, regardless of whether the audience is a theater full of cynical performers at Radio City Music Hall or two world leaders at Camp David. The lesson learned through decades of wigs, violins, and White House screenings is that the mind will always try to sabotage the moment, but the "good hang" is found in the shared laughter of the survivors. Whether it’s a dog eating a Costco-sized wedge of Manchego or a sketch that dies in "Shit Can Alley," the chaos is the point. As Gasteyer heads for her Uber, the reflection is clear: the only way to survive the pressure of performance is to embrace the imperfection and, occasionally, just "cut the shit."